The other day I noticed I was up for my second nomination for deleting for my Wikipedia page. I questioned, am I a notable source for information in my industry…

I learned today that the Wikipedia administrators decided to “keep” the page, because, and I quote:

The result was keep. There are obvious WP:COI issues in play here, but that is a reason to edit the article, not to delete it. There was also off-site canvassing, but that does not necessarily invalidate the positions of those canvassed. On the whole I would say consensus is (weakly) leaning towards keep. Beeblebrox (talk) 16:16, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

That being said, it was a pretty heated debate going on in that deletion nomination page. Specifically a lot of flak from User:Cantaloupe2.

Anyway, it honestly does make me feel happy, on some level, to have the page. It shows my contributions to the SEO industry are seen to be somewhat valuable and that helps me keep doing what I really love to do.

It is kind of funny, it all started back when I wrote I wish I had a Wikipedia entry and then wrote one myself, which was a big time no-no. I didn’t know that then, but I learned quickly it was a mistake to write your own entry.

So that started a debate but Wikipedia decided to keep it then. Then the debate came back up again 4 years later and the result was again a “keep.”

In fact, earlier this year, they made the barry schwartz page a landing page to three different Barry Schwartz individuals, which was also cool.

Anyway, it really isn’t about ego – really. It is more about feeling like the work I’ve been doing in the SEO space for almost ten years is somewhat validated by independent sources outside of the SEO space. Not sure if that makes any sense?

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  1. Rick Bucich

    Some of the editors take an almost militant stand on what stays or goes. I have discovered that for new users, anything new you create gets automatically flagged for deletion, standard procedure. But if you’ve built up some credibility on the site making small edits, you can then create a new page and it will stick even if the notability is dubious.

    Case in point, almost every tech company in Mountain View no matter how obscure has their own page, more than likely because they’re of interest to local editors. Good luck trying to create a page for a company with much more credible notability (but not of interest to local geeks).

    The Mountain View page lists local companies:,_California but some feel that it you don’t have a dedicated page that you can’t be listed. Vicious circle because the company might have 300 employees and some on the list might have a dozen. Which is more notable?

    I argued back and forth with others that it was a disservice to readers not to list a company with 300+ employees since it is relevant to someone doing research on the community. Nevertheless, it always came back to “if they were notable they’d have a page.” When the company in question moved to Sunnyvale, I gave up the fight.

    I’m not necessarily disgruntled, but you do have to learn how to work within the established framework and especially the personalities. Can be more difficult that managing a real relationship.

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